Lal Masjid In Pictures

I got some great images from the internet for those that don’t know what these terrorists at Lal Masjid did yesterday. (here, here and here)

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Since the Government of Pakistan announced formal military action if they didn’t throw down their arms and surrender, the rhetoric has cooled as the administration of the mosque knows their day of reckoning has arrived. Now, according to the Lal Masjid administration, there are no suicide bombers in the mosque and they are ready to talk and hand over their weapons, but are demanding that they be treated with respect…. WTF?!?!?! Respect for someone who has threatened mass suicide bombings and an all out war against the government… why are you backing down now?

Let’s hear the rhetoric and the jihadi music… this is what you wanted Lal Masjid!!! Stand and fight since you have been threatening to do so for the last 6 months.

Maybe the tanks, Rangers, Elite Force Commandos and battalions of Pakistan Army soldiers have shown you that challenging the Government of Pakistan is not as easy as you thought and you mistook President Musharraf’s silence for weakness…

Yesterday, 25 (unconfirmed) innocent people were killed at these people’s hands; a government building was vandalized and set on fire; attempts were made to steal weapons from the police and Rangers; city property was destroyed to serve as weapons for these terrorists, and the list goes on and on….

Mr. President, you have waited 6 months and 12 hours now… give them another 2 hours to surrender and then show them the reaction to their threats and lawlessness. They have had enough chances to comply with the law… FINISH THEM otherwise there will be another Lal Masjid somewhere else in the country.

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16 Comments

  1. Shid Alla
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Dear Brothers,

    What’s wrong if Pakistan is turned into another Afghanistan?? After all Pakistanis would be better off living as the Afghans did under the Taliban. Every bits & pieces of our religion would be sticked together to form a wonderful governance system. Moreover, the Indians would not dare to harm Pakistan anymore.

    Pakistan should be governed by Taliban. Talibans’are Pakistan’s future. They resemble tolerence and peace to the entire world. Not only that, the Talibans also holds fashion statement in black & white flag, which signifies that they are dieheart fans of the football club Juventus. So, the Italians such as Sonia Mayno Gandhi (Indian Congress President)very much likes the Talibans for their hardcore support to the football club hailing from her country, Itali. However, only due to some circumtances that Sonia could not show her love towards the Taliban, other than that Talibans are her inspiration.

    Therefore, the ones holding-up Lal Masjid are freedom fighters whom are defending Pakistan’s future. Talibans should rule over Pakistan as this would ensure strict adherence towards Islam.

    Bro Khalid has written that “TERRORIST ARRESTED DRESSED AS Á WOMEN”. I want to ask him why is considered wrong. Once during the time of Mohammad S.A.W, he too ivaded from being captured by kafirs by dressing as the kafir soldiers before fleeing. He then returned as to recapture the city from kafir by once again dressing as kafir soldier. That’s called tactic, not something to be shamed off.

    Bro Klalid has also mentioned that Prez Mush is capable to taking down the freedom fighters through Pakistan’s military might. How is it possible?? Have you never heard of the invisible army Allah (SWT) S.W.T that could be used against these human soldiers??? Muhammad S.A.W have used them once during the battle of Badar or something. However, the question is whether they are capable to fighting the modern warfare of today….Them apart look at the Ghost Like Muslim women whom would make the army to shit in their pants.

    Anyway, keep up the good work but remember that Taliban goverence is the way forward for Pakistan.

    You could contact me at shitlah@yahoo.com

  2. Posted July 6, 2007 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    Let me see if I can answer your comment clearly:

    1) What’s wrong if Pakistan is turned into another Afghanistan?

    No Pakistani wants a Taliban style of government. We don’t want Morality police. We don’t want the religious clerics telling us how to live our lives. And we don’t want our country invaded for supporting terrorists. Your view that “its a wonderful governance system,” is completely false. The Taliban operates like a militant force, not upholding the tolerance and patience that Islam teaches; rather they sought to IMPOSE BY FORCE the teachings of Islam that they agreed with, while forsaking those that were not as acceptable to them.

    2) I really don’t understand the connection that you try to make between Sonia Gandhi and the Taliban. I don’t think that you could get her to go on record with that statement. As a matter of fact, please provide a hyperlink to the story that supports this statement, as I don’t believe it to be true. Further, India’s new interest in doing business with Afghanistan is motivated by the Karzai government, not the Taliban; and I can assure you if the Taliban was in power in Afghanistan, no Indian would do business there.

    3) I think that you have a very confused view of Islam. While Islam is very clear on who Kafirs are, it is just as clear that Muslims may not take up war against them unless they are directly attacked by them. There is no concept of pre-emptive strikes.

    Secondly, the Holy Quran is also very clear that no Muslim shall bring harm to any other Muslim, which is obviously not the view that you have. You, along with the many Taliban supporters, seem to believe that Islam is what you believe it to be and that there is no room for anyone else’s opinion.

    Thirdly, I am very clear about both of these mullahs being cowards. For 6 months, they have used propaganda and rhetoric to threaten suicide attacks in Pakistan and a Jihad against the government. Only to cower in fear when the military moved in and attacked.

    4) Why are you calling these people “Freedom Fighters”? Are you confused about what the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist are? Please name for me who the infidels/kafirs are in the Lal Masjid battle. Are you trying to imply that the government, or for that matter Pakistanis, are infidels/kafirs? To that I remind you that the Holy Prophet’s Hadiths teaches us that as Muslims, we don’t have the right to judge other people’s adherence or belief in Islam. It is strictly prohibited. Yet, the Taliban that you support and the terrorists in Pakistan have forgotten this teaching of the Holy Prophet, as they judge Pakistanis everyday on the basis on religion.

    It is sad that you have a warped view of what Islam teaches and what the way forward for Pakistan is. I would ask that you buy the following for yourself: a copy of the Holy Quran, a copy of the Hadiths and a copy of a reputed Islamic scholar (Bukhari comes to mind) to understand that the religion that you think you are following has never taught violence as a way to promote it.

    I have a question for you. I believe it is Hadiths # 7488 in which Allah (SWT) commanded the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) to build a masjid for orphans. The Prophet in his glorious wisdom, collected money to purchase the land and worked hand and hand with the laborers to build the masjid. In Pakistan, and Lal Masjid, in particular, private land has been seized and the masjid built upon it; in other areas of Islamabad, masjids were erected in violation of the laws. Why do you not follow the Prophet’s example here?

    Islam is not a pick and choose religion. It is all or nothing. You can’t choose to follow the parts that you agree with and refuse the parts that you don’t agree with. That is not Islam.

  3. Shid Alla
    Posted July 6, 2007 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    Dear bro,

    Thanks for correcting my statements. Yah, I agree that Sonia has nothing to do with Talibans and there is no relevance in my mail on the matter.

    Exactly as you have said, “Islam is not a pick and choose religion. It is all or nothing. You can’t choose to follow the parts that you agree with and refuse the parts that you don’t agree with. That is not Islam”.

    Only Muhammad S.A.W and his true whole hearted followers would have led such life and its the same thing that’s what the Talibans are fighting for, practice & embrace as whole and not just the bits & pieces that one likes.

    In this sense, you mean to say that living and being guided to live like true Muslim is wrong. Except them as teachers and guides sent by Allah (SWT) S.W.T. The Talibans and our brothers fighting from within Lal Masjid are wanting to guide the whole of Pakistan to live in a true Islamic way of life. That’s something to be proud of.

    “Freedom Fighters”? Please name for me who the infidels/kafirs are in the Lal Masjid battle”. You mean to say that only if fighting is between Muslims its not ‘freedom fighting’?? Come on, they are doing good….would be awarded rightfully in heaven for trying to bring Pakistanis to the correct path of Islam.

    “Muslims may not take up war against them unless they are directly attacked by them”. As far as I am concerned, once the population of Muslim have risen to 5/95, there should be demands for establish Islamic way of live. Then once the level has reached 25/75 and more, Muslims could fight to establish Islamic will.

    Pakistanis supported the Talibans in Allah (SWT) Land (Afghanistan) so why are they being portrayed so-unwanted in Pakistan, now. Pakistanis supported & admired them as we saw them as the true upholder of Islamic value no matter how tough the learning & tutoring process was. And now, you are saying that they are not the way forward for Pakistan. How could that be??

    The “mullahs being coward”. Sometimes we have to think that to move ahead one have to alter course. That’s exactly what the holy mullahs have done.

    I don’t think that Pakistanis would have any problems living under Taliban style. I am sure the majority would welcome them with open heart. For the Pakistani women, they could lower their expenses on clothing and other accessories under a Taliban rule. For the men, they don’t have to waste money on shaving and hair cutting under a Taliban rule. Furthermore, building expenditure would also fall dramatically as the many caves around Pakistan could be lived upon as true Muslims, such as the Talibans in Allah (SWT) Land. Not forgetting the kids off-course, they could play with something no else would even dare to hear, bombs; grenade launchers etc. This would prepare them at young age to become good soldiers when they grow old.

    One more important thing, Pakistan could also be split into 2 where all the non-believers could be asked to leave. If this happens Pakistanis could develop skills in martial art by continuously wagging war toward the newly formed nation of kafirs. This would also enhance Talibans military’s capabilities to even conquer India, in the future.

    TALIBAN GUARDIANCE OF HUMAN RIGHTS, WILL & LAND.

  4. Posted July 6, 2007 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    To The Regular Readers of my Blog,

    I have allowed this extremist to post his thoughts twice now, and have now banned his postings in this forum. As we have said before, we will only entertain intelligent thought with intelligent, logical arguments; extremism will not be tolerated. I apologize for allowing him/her to post on this forum, but the world needs to see that there are mentally challenged people following the extremists. I have yet to find one Islamic scholar that supports the extremist view of Islam.

    In answer to his recent post, first, stop calling me Bro. I am not your brother, nor will I ever want to be. I don’t believe in the vision that you present of Islam and am sickened to think that you dare to question my piety as a Muslim, when the Prophet Himself said that no Muslim has that right.

    You are an extremist, just like the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and the Lal Masjid Brigade.

    This warped vision that Islam can be interpreted in an extremist warrior view is the reason why Islam has been insulted globally. If people like this would learn that they are not the decision makers for the religion and will never be trusted to be decision makers due to their extremist radical view of what Islam teaches.

    While you say that people will not have a problem with Taliban style rule in Pakistan, that is sadly not the case. As proven by the NWFP, the Taliban view is not accepted by the masses of Pakistanis. The forced censorship, the threatening of shopkeepers and schools, and the regular suicide attacks on innocent Pakistanis is not Islamic. Period. Islam teaches that suicide in any form is condemned by Allah (SWT), yet these extremists continue to believe that they will go to heaven if they commit suicide.

    Again, I ask that you read the Holy Quran, the Hadiths and a the works of a respected Islamic Scholar, such as Bukhari, Zakir Naik or Javeed Ghamdi.

    Stop following teachings that have been manipulated to fit the cause of the day for some extremist mullah that is only interested in power and control, not Islam.

    How dare you even think that you and your radical extremists would be allowed to split Pakistan into 2! That is further proof that you come from a very sick mind that believes you and your friends are the soldiers of Islam, when in truth you are the CANCER that is eating Islam away from within.

    And while we are talking about it… who the hell are you to tell me that what I think? Do you know me? Have you ever spoken to me? Your statement is nothing more than a judgment of my religious piety, which I will not tolerate from someone like you. I didn’t judge your piety, therefore, you have no right to judge mine. Instead, you feel that you are JUSTIFIED in assuming what I think, when I have been very clear about my beliefs. The Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) taught many things, including patience and tolerance. In his divine mission, he did not use force to convert people to Islam; rather he lived a life worth emulating, so that people would choose to follow him and convert to Islam.

    And following that, the Imam-e-Kaaba, when in Pakistan, tried to convince the Lal Masjid Brigade to stop the confrontation tactics. They chose not to listen to this eminent religious scholar and continue to challenge the government. Would you say that the Imam-e-Kaaba doesn’t understand Islam? Would you dare to say that?

    Sadly what you, and the rest of the Taliban/Al-Qaeda supporters, have not realized is that Osama bin Laden’s fight is with the House of Saud for control of Saudi Arabia and its oil. The attacks on London and the United States are nothing more than terrorist actions that have brought Islam and Muslims into disrepute, when the bulk of the Muslim population does not support them. Are you going to tell me that 98% of Muslims don’t understand their religion? Are you dare going to call this 98% Kafirs or Infidels?

    And for the record, I think it is extremely cowardly to post statements like this and not use your real name. I know that Shid Alla is not a real name and it shows that you don’t stand by what you have to say

  5. syed muhammad usaid
    Posted July 7, 2007 at 4:05 am | Permalink

    i pray for end this fight because muslim does not fight with muslims we loss strong power (usaid shah)

  6. Posted July 7, 2007 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Usaid,

    We all join you in that prayer.

  7. Aanisah
    Posted July 9, 2007 at 5:29 am | Permalink

    Asa everyone

    I am from the uk and even here brothels are illegal let alone in an islamic country. I can understand them not wanting Pakistan to become an western country however this is not the way to go about it.
    Ialms YES it is about PEace and I think people have already killed in the name of islam which is WRONG!!Killing by fire is HARAM as is suicide bombings that is why we are buried and am not allowed to be cremated.
    What all these extremists in the name of islam are doing has caused endless problems for all us muslims that would like to live in peace. We all know Islam and can study it and research into each topic, however that is why Hell was made and we are all tested in this earth. We know what Islam entails and everyone who commits a sin will be punished. Therfore i must stress to these so called extremists if you teach Islam peacefully and in its true form before all these terroists sprung up Islam was the fastest growing religin, well how do u think it is seen now?????Most western people relate it to TERROR???MUslims kill ??suicide bomings…this is not right!!!!!!Now women are not being allowed to wear the niqab..it is all your fault!!!!
    Yes there should be procedures for the Government to clear brothel etc from the whole country and music has always been around but we all know what is at our peril…
    What is the saying “if you really love something set it free..and if it never comes back to you it was never meant to be”.

    Please can all you so Called Islamic Terroists stop playing God and calling JIHad at every hour. We were all living peacefully before you did 9 11 etc and made the whole world our enemies..even our children are now threatened who are innocent…please please stop playing GOD..and just control your own family that is enough!!!!!

  8. Aanisah
    Posted July 9, 2007 at 5:34 am | Permalink

    and by the way i think shid alla is joking…just messing about…i would not take anything he says literally….caves..NO….

  9. Posted July 9, 2007 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Aanisah,

    I am sorry to say this but Shid Alla sent me a very rude email after I blocked his postings on this blog, calling the Holy Prophet many obscene things and taking great pride in the fact that Pakistan and Islam are being destroyed by the same extremists that he claimed to be supporting.

    He also informed me in his email that his “name” is actually a derogatory statement on Allah (SWT), which I will not post here.

  10. Mohammad Yahya
    Posted July 11, 2007 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Salamzz!!
    I am new here but reading the statements of Khalid & Aanisah I am being forced to write a statement here.
    Aanisah & Khalid, I will not be able to convince u nor teach but just listen that a Human isnt given birth to think only about himself/herself and his/her Family, but the reality is that we are here for people, i think you havent heard that Allah (SWT) SWT says that i can forget anything that Concern me but wont forget those that concern the people.
    firstly i am Totally against the Creation of Pakistan, and it has a solid reason, can anyone tell me WHY was Pakistan created???
    if the answer is that “it was created for Muslims to live their life according to the teachings of ISLAM”. then is there anyone who dare to tell that
    “WHERE IS THAT ISLAM??? for which this country was created. why on 11th of August 1947 all our so called Lagend Politicians were talking and planning for the Constitution for this country???
    WAS’NT IT ALREADY THERE?? in the form of QURAN and HADITH.???
    Can any constitution compete QURAN in its completeness????????
    my answer is NOOOOOOOO.
    our Leaders at that time made the BIGGEST mistake that now we are paying for.

    anyways now Lets talk about JIHAD.

    Allah (SWT) said: “Those who have striven for Our sake, We guide them to Our ways” (29:96).

    “Truly Allah (SWT) loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure,”

    “O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah (SWT), ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah (SWT) hath power over all things.

    NOW COME TO LAL MASJID ISSUE….

    I dont favor anyone neither the Govt nor the LAL MASJID Students and both GHAZI brothers but everyone has his own view.
    Govt has totally misinterpreting the situation in LAL MASJID. everyone knows that what LAL MASJID administration wanted.
    so wasn’t it ISLAM???????

    the Govt said that there are millatants inside and also some forign millatants, also called EXTREMISTS, we all are extremist in our own ways……..was it true that those LAL MASJID ppl whom Govt call the Millatants had HOSTAGES inside and they were not allowing them to come out……

    suppose i accept this statement that they were holding those people there with force. SO more then 1700 people came out from LAL MASJID, i think they should have been taken and left to go to their HOMES, then why ARMY was busy in taking their Finger Prints and then shifted them to some UNKNOWN PLACE.
    was there any need to take the GIRLS out from there WITHOUT CLOTHES. and when Taken to unknown place you try to play with their bodies. what i think is that it was not ZINNA with those Girls but it was a ZINNA with QURAN.

    Govt thinks that the People of this country Eat Grass. but its not the case.

    Aanisah….reading that sentence of ” if u luv some1 set it free” something like that WHO SAID IT??? do you know???

    you should have put a HADITH over there.

    now read this

    Muhammad (PBUH) said, (mafhoom)”"” When you see a bad deed being done by some1 stop him with your Hands, if you cant then stop him with your Mouth, if you cant do this, then consider it a SIN in your heart, and this is the Weakist of Eemaan.”"”
    so should we be OR we are the weak muslims.
    the BEST MUSLIM is the one who fight with hands and Weapons.

    and one more thing what do you think of ISLAM????

    is it ISLAM in Pakistan????
    to kill people who Talk about GOOD things and to set free who are wrong?????
    to kill those who talk about Allah (SWT) (SWT) and MUAHAMMMAD(PBUH) and leave and appreciate those who talk about freeness of mind, broadmindness, and good things like SEX, relaxation, money and standards of living????

    where is it in ISLAM that ZINNA at the Age 16 for Girl and 18 for a boy wont be considered as ZINNA.

    and still GOvt says that this BILL is totally according to ISLAM.

    when did ISLAM allowed a married woman to have SEX with men on her own will.”"”"

    i have alot of things to mention here but i know when some1 heart is dead, then it understands nothing.

    so i think i should not write anyhing else.

    KHALID i agree with you as you said about MUHAMMAD(MBUH) Patience, but listen this is also a HADITH.

    The second best deed is to participate in Jihad (Volume 1, Book 2, Number 25, Narrated Abu Huraira) - Allah (SWT)’s Apostle was asked, “What is the best deed?” He replied, “To believe in Allah (SWT) and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, “What is the next in goodness? He replied, “To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah (SWT)’s Cause.” The questioner again asked, “What is the next (in goodness)?” He replied, “To perform Hajj (Pilgrimage to Mecca) ‘Mubrur, (which is accepted by Allah (SWT) and is performed with the intention of seeking Allah (SWT)’s pleasure only and not to show off and without committing a sin and in accordance with the traditions of the Prophet).”

    Tell me do you consider that Pakistan is an ISLAMIC contry??? i dont think so….

    tell me just a SINGLE action and operation against the bad people…

    is there any single operation done against PROSTITUTES, MURDERES, and other BAD PEOPLE?????
    when did Pakistan took an action against ALTAF HUSSAIN, the biggest terrorist of Paksitan,
    and Sheikh Rasheed the biggest ZINNAKAAR.

    whenever an Operation takes Place in Pakistan its against some MADRASSA, MOSQUE, and ISLAM.
    WAANA, BAJAUR, MALAKAND,WAZIRISTAN, AFGHANISTAN, LAL MASJID, and now in SWAT.

    the rule in pakistan is that whoever talk about ISLAM, FINISH HIM.

    its USA ruling over country, whatever they say MUSSHARAF answer just like a DOG.
    and ya you are talking about patience…SO is this Patience only for those WHO talk about ISLAM, or is it also for the ARMY coz they are also MUSLIMs, do you think they are not MUSLIMS, that they cant Wait????

    why didnt they forgive those people????

    why were they using POWER, and why is the Govt doing all these things, its also for POWER, not for ISLAM.

    KHALIDDDDD…..dont say anything when you are not fully aware of the FACTS.

    do you think our ARMY was fighting for ISLAM???

    Aanisah you are only worried about your NIQAAB, people have lost their whole families, and you are only worried about your NIQAAB???

    HAZRAT ALI(RA) said: If you are on right path and not facing difficulties, then think for a while, you may be on the wrong path, Because RIGHT PATH CONTAINS DIFFICULTIES.

    ISLAM needs sacrifices.
    my prayers are with all the MUSLIMS who are fighting for the right cause.
    May Allah (SWT)(SWT) make the dream of LAL MASJID martyres TRUE, and also the dreams of all those who want ISLAM in this country.

    Let those (believers) who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter, fight in the Cause of Allah (SWT); and whoso fights in the Cause of Allah (SWT) and is killed orgets victory, We shall bestow on him a great reward. (V.4:74).

    “Invade in the Name of Allah (SWT) (swt) and forthe Cause of Allah (SWT) (swt) and kill those who disbelieve in Allah (SWT) (swt).

    Invade and do not press heavily by exceeding the limits, and do not betray, and do not kill children….”

    And to beware of fleeing from the enemy during the (battle), and it is one of the biggest sins and its committers (the defeated ones) are threatened with crushing punishments:

    O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve in a battlefield, never turn your backs to them. (V.8:15).

    “By Him in Whose Hands my soul is! Were it not for some man amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me, and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya (army unit) going out for Jihad in Allah (SWT)’s Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah (SWT)’s Cause and then come back to life and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred and then come back to life again and then be martyred. ” (Sahih AlBukhari, Vol 4, Hadith No.54).

    Think not of those who are killed in the Way of Allah (SWT) as dead. Nay, they are alive, with their Lord and they have provision.

    The Mosques of Allah (SWT) shall be maintained only by those who believe in Allah (SWT) Raw and the Last Day, perform IqamatasSalat, and give Zakat and fear none but Allah (SWT). It is they who are expected to be on true guidance. (V.9:18).

    We beseech Allah (SWT) to make victorious His Religion (Islam) and to make superior His Words and to lead all the Muslims to that in which His Pleasure is.

    AAAAMEEEEEEENNNNNNNN

  11. Posted July 11, 2007 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    Yahya,

    First, I don’t agree with anything that you have to say because you have used the Holy Quran like an extremist does to justify any action of the Muslims that subvert the Holy Prophet’s teachings.

    Second, Pakistan was created to be a home for Muslims, but not to be governed under Islamic law. IF you go back to Jinnah’s first speech to the Constituent Assembly, you will see that he DID NOT say that Pakistan is for Muslims only; rather he said that everyone will be allowed to practice whatever religion they chose as long as it does not interfere with the activities of the State, which is Pakistan. Many mullahs have tried to preach that Jinnah believed that Pakistan was to be Islamic and Islamic only, which is not what Jinnah believed.

    Lastly, I saw the other 2 comments that you sent me. If you go back to the main domain of this blog, you will see that it is run by a company, not individuals. If it takes us some time to post your comment, it is because we are doing business, not monitoring every comment 24/7 that comes to this blog. We believe that every one has the right to voice their opinion, but since WE own this blog, we have the right to decide what gets posted and what doesn’t.

    If you feel that you have something important to say, start your own blog and stop writing volumes of information on this one. You might get more people to believe what you have to say.

  12. Posted July 13, 2007 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Dear Khalid,

    Assalam o Alaikum.

    I just wanna ask you, When America invaded Iraq in 1990, wasent that extremism of Jews or
    christianity, and than when they freed Kuwait from Iraq why dont they leave the Holy Land
    of Arab, and than once again theY set a stage and performed well at 911, and than started
    another invasion in Afghanistan, and than Iraq, millions of people they killd by carpet
    bmbing. what do you think of it, isn’t it extremist activity. the current affairs are all after
    math of this.

    Now come the point of Lal Masjid, Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi Shaheed wanted to clear the
    country from prostitution, and wanted Islamic living, he and his followers wanted Govenment
    to stop destroying the mosques (Many of them was build on legal lands). even Lal Masjid is
    build on legally transferred land.

    Do you want prostitution to be allowed at your surrounding. How would you answer your Sisters,
    Daughters in future.

    Atleast We cannot allow this.

    GHAZI ABDUL RASHID SHAHEED ZINDA BAD
    ISLAMA ZINDA BAD
    PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

  13. Posted July 13, 2007 at 3:45 pm | Permalink

    and when you say FREEDOM OF SPEECH you must post each and every word of people.

    come on dare to post what Shid Alla said to you in the answer.

  14. Posted July 13, 2007 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

    Wa’Lakum As Salam Asif,

    Let me see if I can clear up some of the confusion. When it comes to America and their invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq (2nd time) and the occupation of Saudi Arabia. It is clearly known by anyone around the world, including the Americans that their #1 interest in the protection of their way of life. When Iraq was invaded the first time, they were only interested in making sure that they didn’t get to Saudi Arabia and take control of the oil resources that the West needs to live its life. This is also the reason that they have not left Saudi since. I don’t agree with the American stance here, but since the Saudi government asked for America to protect them, only the Saudi’s can answer this clearly. As a Muslim, I don’t like the fact that the Americans have bases in Saudi Arabia and are building another base in Iraq.

    In terms of the Jews, I don’t like to place a blanket condemnation on them all. The Jews can also be divided into 2 groups: Jews and Zionists. It takes some reading to understand the difference. The Jews are a religious group of people that want to live in peace with everyone around them; the Zionists, on the other hand, believe that they should have their land (as defined in the Torah) returned to them. A big difference on ideology and interpretation.

    Coming now to Iraq and Afghanistan in the current framework. The invasion of Iraq was a cooked up invasion that over the years has proven to be a noose around George Bush’s neck. Iraq without doubt has turned into another Vietnam for America and the fear now is with “civil war” starting, they need to pull out, leaving the country is shambles. Afghanistan, on the other hand, was a retaliation for 9/11 and providing a safe haven to al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. While I fully understand that Hamid Karzai is a puppet of the American government, he has done nothing to win the support of the people of Afghanistan, which will cause his government to not only suffer, but be tumbled down.

    Now, Lal Masjid, whatever their objective was, it was done incorrectly. No one has the right to take the law into their own hands, NO ONE. If everyone were to start doing that, we would have civil war over night in Pakistan with many innocent people dying for no reason. If you believe that these social ills must be eliminated, it can only be done with education, as violence begets only violence. Lal Masjid may be built on legal land, Jamia Hafsa is not. If you check the land records in Islamabad, you will see that they have illegally occupied 16 canals of land, which is also a violation of the law. At no point did the Lal Masjid Brigade attempt to bring the government on their side and form a consensus on how to solve the problems that they felt needed to be removed from society. Again, no one has the right to take the law in their own hands.

    To your question about how I would answer my sisters and daughters in the future: get an education. With an education, you are able to open doors and have opportunities that are not available without one. Anyone who believes that social ills can be removed by force is sadly mistaken, as it only hardens opinion against their movement, as we saw with Lal Masjid. Having said that, I should also be clear that education in Pakistan is a joke. The private schools are nothing more than social clubs for the newly wealthy and they don’t teach either “tamiz” or “tarbiat.” Our government schools are cesspools of wasted money. The only way to fix the problem is with a proper education system that assures that all Pakistanis, rich and poor, are able to get quality educations to be able to compete in the corporate workforce.

    Lastly, “and when you say Freedom of Speech you must post each and every word of people.” No, that is not what Freedom of Speech means. Freedom of Speech comes with the responsibility to understand that certain topics, phrases and ideas can not be posted because of the backlash or reaction that they will bring from people. If you walk into a crowded room and scream “Bomb,” don’t you think that everyone will go running for the doors? It’s the same principle here. By giving people freedom of speech, they must understand that there is a responsibility that comes with what they say and what they do. If you write a letter to a newspaper, it is their choice whether they publish it or not, you still have the freedom to write the letter, but the final decision is with the newspaper as to whether it will be printed or not.

    Also, what Shid Alla sent to me bridges on the Blasphemy laws of Pakistan and it would not be him that is brought in front of the courts, but me. His comments were insulting and derogatory to Allah (SWT), the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS), and the Holy Quran. I will not insult my religion and faith for anyone.

  15. suhail
    Posted July 14, 2007 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

    salam
    i have been reding all comments so i think i shud say something
    khalid when i read shid alla blog i knew tat time tat he is a fake and his email
    was mocking Allah (SWT) name.he may use some other name to do the same thing
    let us think those ghazi guys wre doing rite thing but threatning
    kiliing the innocents was tat right.wasn

    if ghazi was doing right thing cant he do it peacefully
    he wanted muslims to be pious so does zakir naik but see the difference
    and who is sucesssful.just think killing policemen for their guns to spread islam.
    threatning unislamic ways like suicide attacks against muslims.
    using women and children as humen sheild.how can this be islamic
    instead of teaching quran they wre thaught ak 47 to serve islam.thre were more ak 47
    than qurans.
    now tell me with ways like this who will become a pious muslim because he will be killed and will not get a chance for TOBA.and which non muslim will accept islam if we tell him tat if u miss a prayer u will be shot dead
    instead of telling abt kaza.
    and jihad is misnomer itz not holy war itz to survive or struggle.
    thanks

  16. Posted July 16, 2007 at 4:58 pm | Permalink

    Mr. Khalid Thanks for commenting on my post. I am glad to read your comments. I totally
    agree with what you said about freedom of speech. but what the bloody hell was “Satanic
    Verses” of Sulman Rushdie. Wasent that freedom of speech on western side the awarde him
    “SIR” for this bloody work.

    I trust you that Shid Alla must have written something that caused you to block his post.

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